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Welcome to the Clinician Researcher podcast, where academic clinicians learn the skills
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to build their own research program, whether or not they have a mentor.
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As clinicians, we spend a decade or more as trainees learning to take care of patients.
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When we finally start our careers, we want to build research programs, but then we find
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that our years of clinical training did not adequately prepare us to lead our research
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program.
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Through no fault of our own, we struggle to find mentors, and when we can't, we quit.
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However, clinicians hold the keys to the greatest research breakthroughs.
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For this reason, the Clinician Researcher podcast exists to give academic clinicians
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the tools to build their own research program, whether or not they have a mentor.
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Now introducing your host, Toyosi Onwuemene.
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Welcome to the Clinician Researcher podcast.
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I'm your host, Toyosi Onwuemene, and it is an absolute pleasure to be talking with you
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today.
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Thank you so much for tuning in.
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Today, I'm talking about growing your research skills with strategy.
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Yes, I'm talking about growing your research skills with strategy, and the emphasis today
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is on strategy.
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So when I started at the end of my fellowship to look for jobs, I said, I want to do research.
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And I was going about from institution to institution, and everywhere I went, people
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would say, oh, it is so hard for clinicians these days.
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Nobody can make it.
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The funding lines are so low.
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This is so hard.
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Why would anybody even bother?
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I remember the whole time I kept thinking, I was like, but this is what I want to do.
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This is what I want to do.
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And I went to a place where the scientists, the clinicians, were doing research.
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They were scientists.
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And I remember thinking, I was like, okay.
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And I looked around, there were so many people who were doing research and succeeding despite
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the low funding lines, despite how hard it is for clinicians.
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So they were succeeding.
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I remember thinking, if these people are succeeding, there must be strategy involved.
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There must be strategy.
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People don't succeed by accident, and this may be the whole take-home message of today's
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talk.
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Nobody succeeds by accident.
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People succeed intentionally and strategically.
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They use intentionality to develop strategy.
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Okay.
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So for whatever reason, I used to look around and see people who were successful, and I'd
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be like, he is so lucky.
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Well, I would think, oh, he's hardworking.
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But I have to tell you that luck and hard work are not enough because, hey, you've got
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plenty of it, and you still have a ways to go.
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I've got plenty of it, and I still have a ways to go.
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But what you want is strategy, because strategy allows you to leverage both luck and hard
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work to actually move forward, because some hard work just allows you to spin in circles.
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For many of us clinicians who don't have research training, that's what we're doing.
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We're working very hard.
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We have these big questions, but we just don't know how to stop spinning our wheels.
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Strategy helps you move forward.
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So I want to talk to you about seven strategic moves that you can make to build skill in
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research even as you're starting out as a clinician.
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Seven strategies to build skill.
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Number one.
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Number one strategy is to develop a strategic plan.
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Yes, number one strategy is strategy.
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But you got to have a plan, and it's not just a plan to say, oh, I have a manuscript to
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write, or yeah, there are three manuscripts I have to write.
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It's great, but is it written down?
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And is there a goal as far as what month of the year of your next few months that actually
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happens?
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You can be like, wait, what do you mean?
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I know I have three manuscripts to write by the end of the year.
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I don't need to write it down or create a plan.
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But here's the thing.
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I had a great talk with one of my clients recently, and I asked, what are all the goals
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you're trying to accomplish by the end of the year?
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And they listed out their goals for me.
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And I said, great, let's now look at your calendar and let's see how much time you actually
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have to fulfill these goals.
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And so we look at the calendar and it turns out, oh, there is one week gone for this conference.
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Okay, great.
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Oh, two weeks gone for consult service.
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Okay, oh, there's the other two weeks gone for consult service.
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And oh, of course, Christmas vacation.
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Let's take that out.
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Oh, Thanksgiving, though.
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And you know what?
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By the time we look at the schedule and look at the commitments and the actual time that's
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left, it was 27 days, not very many days.
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But here's the key.
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Now we were very clear about how much time they had available to be able to move work
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forward.
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That's strategic planning.
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It's not just saying in the next three months, this is what I want to accomplish.
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And saying, now let's take a hard look at our calendar and see where is that work going
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to happen?
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And being very realistic and saying, what's the reality?
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That I am going to finish this big grant while I'm on vacation.
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Now if you didn't do any work and you get to the deadline and your vacation comes two
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weeks before the deadline, you might be spending a lot of your vacation doing the grant.
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But that means that's not strategic planning.
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Strategic planning is to say, this vacation is coming up, therefore we are not going to
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let this vacation be swallowed up by the grant and we work up to the deadline.
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Strategic planning is not just defining what big goals you have, but also being very clear
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about where in your schedule these goals fit.
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Develop a strategic plan.
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Everybody who succeeds in research has a strategic plan.
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They may not call it a strategic plan.
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I've heard it called many different things.
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I've heard it called an individualized development plan.
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I've heard it called an IPDP.
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I don't even know what the P is.
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But there are just so many names.
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But at the end of the day, it is a written list of goals that you want to accomplish.
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Now here's the thing.
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This is my personal strategy.
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When I'm writing my goals, I don't write goals that are not related to my research goals.
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I mean, I do actually, I take that back.
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I write goals that are related to my personal well-being.
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So for example, I have a certain number of exercise minutes that I want to accomplish
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on a weekly basis, a certain goal that I'm looking for in terms of health.
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And I have those goals.
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And so they are part of my strategic plan.
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But what I want to emphasize is you want to put on your strategic plan the things that
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have no accountability.
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So don't put the conference presentation because you know what?
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If you don't do the conference presentation, wow, you're going to get into trouble.
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In fact, to be honest, the kind of person you are, you're not going to be the person
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who's not going to do the conference presentation.
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You're going to pull the all-nighter to get it in.
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So you could put on your strategic plan, but it's one of those things that you're going
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to do.
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The deadline will force you or you'll be embarrassed.
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And you don't want that.
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And so you don't have to put that on your strategic plan.
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But what you should put on the strategic plan is the manuscript that has no deadline.
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And you know what?
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Five years from now, you still haven't written it.
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No one's asking you questions.
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Well, your mentor, your research mentor might be mad, but you know, for the most part, no
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one's bugging you about it.
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Those are the kinds of things you want to put on your strategic plan so that you develop
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a plan to actually do the things that nobody might ask you about.
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So number one strategy to succeeding as a researcher is developing a strategic plan
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that's written and that's in a place where you can see it regularly.
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All right.
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Number two is to develop the habit of planning your week weekly, every week without fail.
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Now you might be on vacation and you're like, I don't want to plan my vacation week.
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I would say consider that it may be that your plan for your vacation week on a weekly and
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a weekly plan is like, okay, day one, read a book, right?
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You always have a plan.
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Even when it's not explicit, what you want to do is make explicit your plan.
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Now that's just vacation because I was trying to explain the fact that you should do it
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all the time, but let's talk about your regular work week.
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You're in clinic on Tuesday, you're wrapping up clinic on Wednesday and all of a sudden
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you're fielding calls on Wednesday and you guys at the end of the week, you're like,
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wait a minute, oh, I didn't get any writing done because on Monday I started the project,
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but I was like, well, I'll do it Tuesday.
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And then everything got away with me.
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Now it's Friday.
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I haven't gotten any, made any progress.
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But when you plan your week, you look at Monday to Friday, because we're not including the
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weekends because you're getting healthy and you're not doing work over the weekends anymore.
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You look at Monday to Friday and you say, okay, well, let me clinic on Tuesday.
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How about instead of taking all day Monday to prep my notes and all day Wednesday to
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finish writing the notes, how about I take Monday in the morning before I start prepping
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my notes, how about I take an hour and a half for writing and in that hour and a half, this
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is what I'm going to accomplish.
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Wow.
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You've planned your Monday by the end of Monday, guess what's happening?
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You're going to do that plan because you're a good executor.
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You look back and say, Monday, I nailed it.
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Great.
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Then you're going to look forward and you're going to say Tuesday, I have clinic on Tuesday.
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I'm not going to be able to get much done, but clinic starts at 1030.
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I can take 30 minutes and finish that introduction that I started last week.
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I wrote an outline, how about I make the draft and in those 30 minutes before the clinic patients
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start knocking, you've gone ahead and you've finished that intro.
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You now made the most out of that window before your clinic because you plan to do it.
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Now Tuesday is like, not only did I finish my clinic, I also accomplished what I needed
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to do in my research and writing.
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Do you see how planning your week can help you move forward?
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It helps you move forward with intentionality.
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It's like money.
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If you don't tell it what to do, it just disappears and does its own thing and you're like, where
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did all the money go?
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That's exactly what happens with time.
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I don't even have to tell you, but when you tell time what it will do for you, then you
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are more likely to be able to get what you need out of that time window.
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Planning your week is a must.
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It is an important productivity hack.
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It's not only limited to clinician scientists.
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So many people have recognized the importance of planning the week, you should do it too.
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When I'm talking about planning, there are things on your calendar that are immovable.
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Put your work, put your writing on the calendar, put your writing meetings on the calendar.
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You have an hour and a half that you want to devote to your writing.
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It should be on your calendar.
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Nobody should be able to go in and schedule.
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When you go in and you plan the week on Friday for the next week, or you start on Monday
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and plan for the week, then when people are like, hey, I have this urgent meeting that
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I need to pull you in at, on you're like, oh, I'm looking at my schedule and there's
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no room.
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How about you all just email me the minutes and I can join you next week?
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Because your calendar is already full because you filled it with the priorities you want.
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Strategic move number two, develop the habit of a weekly planning meeting.
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Number three, number three is to write consistently.
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Now, if you are like me, you grew up in a binge writing mode.
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You know, you're like, oh, I have eight hours on Saturday.
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I'm going to write that paper on Saturday and you, you know, slug your way through Saturday
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and you maybe got 30 to 40 minutes of writing done because you know what?
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It took you the first two to three hours just to figure out where you were since you last
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picked up the paper three months ago.
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And then finally you started writing and it was like, wow, I've been here four hours.
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I'm done.
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But what happens when you are writing consistently is on Monday, you invest all that time trying
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to figure out where you were from three months ago.
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Tuesday, you remember what you did on Monday.
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And so you're able to move the work forward just by a little bit, not by much, but by
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a little bit.
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Wednesday, you're able to move it forward a little bit more.
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Thursday, even better.
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And by Friday, wow, you look back over the week and at a minimum, you've gotten at least
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two and a half hours of writing done and now you can take a break because you've been consistent
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in your writing.
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It's the story of the tortoise and the hare.
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The hare wins every time.
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I know you're going to say it's a fable, it's made up, but the reality is that consistent
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effort over time, it's kind of like compound interest, will always pay off compared to
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inconsistent, huge efforts sporadically.
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Because when you think about it, when was the last time you had eight hours to binge
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write?
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Those times don't come anymore.
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Yeah, they came.
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They were very often in college.
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If you were like me, you binge wrote some term papers and you still made an A. But for
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the most part, you don't have those eight hour blocks anymore because you've gotten
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really busy.
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But what you do have is 20 minutes here and 20 minutes there.
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What you do have is a 30 minute window here and a one hour window there.
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And if you're writing consistently, you're able to make the most out of these windows
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and you're able to really move work forward.
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So strategy number three, write consistently.
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Number four is to get accountability.
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I want to pause here and say that your mentor, your research mentor, is a great source of
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accountability because they can sometimes scare the pechesis out of you if you don't
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get your work done.
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I thought I would use that term.
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It sounded cool when I started thinking about it.
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But anyway, let's just say that they might make you a little bit afraid if you show up
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and you haven't worked on that manuscript, but that's not the kind of accountability
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I'm talking about.
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I'm not talking about any kind of accountability that makes you afraid, strikes fear into you,
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or makes you feel small.
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relationship can make it difficult for you not to feel judged every time you show up
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in their presence.
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What you want in your life is non-judgmental accountability.
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Here's how you get it.
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You stand up and you declare your intention, preferably to a witness.
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But even if you don't have a witness, you record yourself and be your own witness.
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You at the beginning of the week on Monday, say to your witness, even if it's you, say
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to your witness, these are the goals I have planned for this week.
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that you want to accomplish.
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That's it.
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Just announce it.
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Now you've made a plan, right?
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Maybe on Monday you sat down to write, you got that page from the clinic saying, holy
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cow, your patient is here.
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You got to show up.
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Let's get this done.
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up in the ER.
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So Monday you sat down and you're like, I'm getting this work done just before my clinic
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is over.
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to see this patient right now.
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Well, there's another amount of writing that went away.
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Fast forward to Friday, you go back to your witness and maybe it's just the video that
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you left for yourself.
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And you say, oh, let me see what I said I would accomplish on Monday.
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And your video of you says, hey, I'm going to accomplish these three items.
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And you look at yourself and you're like, wow, none of these items are accomplished.
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No judgment, just observation, just observation.
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The reason you want to do that is because it allows you the opportunity to reflect and
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to ask yourself what could be different next time.
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I had a plan, didn't execute on the plan.
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What could I do differently?
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Or maybe it was a great story.
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Maybe you did execute on the plan.
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What did you do?
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Congratulations.
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How did I succeed?
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And then you go and do that again.
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Wow.
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Accountability, non-judgmental, just observation.
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Now, you can get this from yourself.
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If you record a video of yourself and what you're going to accomplish at the beginning
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of the week, you can get it from you writing it down and then reviewing.
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So the key is it has to be a review, right?
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You can't just say, hey, I'm going to do it.
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And then at the end of the week, you're like, okay, I don't remember what I said I was going
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to do.
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You actually have to schedule time to do the review so you can reflect on your goals and
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what you could do differently next time.
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So get accountability for your research and writing goals.
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It doesn't have to come from your primary research mentor.
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there's that hierarchy that sometimes makes you feel judged.
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You're thinking you're doing well.
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And then they're like, when's that paper I talked to you about three months ago?
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This accountability needs to be non-judgmental.
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Okay?
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Number five is to lean in to your peer mentoring network.
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Now this goes with the accountability.
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And actually, honestly, I get my accountability from my peer mentors because they will remind
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me that, isn't this the same paper you said you were writing the introduction on three
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weeks ago?
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They have great memories compared to your memory, but it's also non-judgmental because,
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hey, your peers.
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And this is the great thing about your peers.
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They could be your peers in age, but they're at a different level from you.
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Maybe they're already associate professor and you're starting out as an instructor or
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as an assistant professor.
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They're still your friends.
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They're still your colleagues.
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You can get feedback from them because they've already done some things.
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They've gone ahead a little bit.
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But there isn't that hierarchical structure that sometimes exists between the big mentor
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and the early career faculty member.
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So lean in.
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You have so many peers who are so accomplished in different areas.
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Maybe you're the master of grant writing, but you're no good when it comes to thinking
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strategically about when you go out for promotion.
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But someone else went ahead and got promoted two years early.
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Guess what?
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You can be a peer mentor to them as far as grant writing is concerned.
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And they're a peer mentor to you as far as strategically advancing within the academy.
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Win-win for both of you.
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So what you want to do is look around you.
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Who are your peers?
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Sometimes people will see your near peers.
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I just call them your peers and say, well, what did they have that I don't have yet?
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And how can they help me advance in a way that's non-judgmental, friendly, and really
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helps me grow?
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So strategy number five is to lean into your peer mentoring network.
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All right.
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Strategy number six is to take risks.
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Okay?
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Nothing good ever came from not taking a shot.
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Every shot you don't take is a shot that you definitely miss.
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You can look at the grant and you can say, oh, wow, this is for someone who is really
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accomplished.
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Or you can look at the job posting and you can say, maybe three years from now when I
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am more senior.
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Or you can just say, you know what, I probably don't qualify for that, but let's take a shot
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anyway.
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Here's the thing.
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You never lose when you take a shot on goal.
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You never lose.
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You may miss the shot, but what you've done is you've invested in skill building.
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For example, there was a role that called for leadership that I applied for.
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And at the time that I applied for it, I wasn't even sure that I actually was qualified for
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the role, but I felt like it was something I needed to do.
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So I went ahead and I applied.
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And the process of applying what I needed to do in writing my personal statement was
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to clarify for myself what my expertise was and what my motivations were for coming to
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that leadership role.
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And it was beautiful.
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I wrote it all out.
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I read it and I was like, oh, this is so good.
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Guess what?
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I didn't get the role, but I had the opportunity to practice clarifying for myself what was
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important to me.
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Another role like that is going to come up because opportunities will always come.
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And guess what?
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I will be ready to now use this document that I've already put together and make it better
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and stronger for the next application.
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So you never lose.
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Let's say we're writing a grant and you submit the grant and you don't get it.
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Well, you've put together all this information.
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You spent a lot of work.
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Now when you turn around and resubmit it to the same organization or maybe to a different
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organization, you already have all the building blocks and therefore you're able to take those
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building blocks and make them work for you.
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Taking risks allows you to build.
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It allows you to build skill.
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It allows you to build confidence.
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It allows you to grow your networks.
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Take risks.
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And people will say, oh my gosh, it's got to be a calculated risk.
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Just take risks anyway.
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Start getting used to being a person who just does things that you're not even qualified
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to do.
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Someone's like, I had a grant.
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I was writing recently and someone's like, well, you know, the kind of people who get
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these grants are really big shots.
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I don't have to be a big shot to apply for this grant because applying for it helps me
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get closer to my goal of being a big shot, right?
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Whatever big shot means, but take risks.
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Okay.
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Number seven, which kind of sounds counterintuitive to number six is to conserve your energy.
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One of the greatest coaches of all time, her name is Judith.
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She was my executive coach for five years.
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And that's one thing she would always say to me, conserve energy, conserve energy, conserve
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energy.
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And it is so important.
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What does that mean?
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It means ask yourself, hmm, is this worth the investment of my time?
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Now what kinds of things should you think about when you're trying to conserve energy?
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Well, let's just say, for example, there is an announcement that from now on all clinicians
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are going to have to answer their in-basket messages within 30 minutes.
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Okay.
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Conserving energy is saying, hmm, is this feasible for me?
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Hmm, no, it's not.
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Let's see what I can do to make it happen without breaking my whole life.
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That's conserving energy.
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Not conserving energy is to be the one who's going to rouse the entire population of clinicians
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across all the health system to say, this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
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Let's protest.
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Let's make sure the administration knows exactly how crazy this is.
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I'm going to be the one to go around the institution and take up petitions.
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You make sure that that is not conserving energy because it takes a lot of energy and
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effort to try to bring an institution to change its mind.
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And all the while you're doing that, expending significant energy, maybe not making a lot
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of traction in your own goals is that, well, you're not really moving forward.
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You're exhausting yourself and your own personal goals are left unfulfilled.
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Now, I am all about crusading.
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I believe in crusading, but you got to choose your crusading battles very, very strategically.
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If you're an early career faculty who just started and you don't really have any political
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capital in the organization, maybe the best use of your time is not going and canvassing
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for votes to support your petition.
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Maybe the best use of your time is investing in your own career development because that's
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where your energy is going to be able to carry the most weight or to really give you the
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most investment.
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Maybe by the time you finally get promoted and you're now a full professor with tenure,
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then you can go be the one canvassing votes about the campus.
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And by then you're probably really savvy, you know enough people, then instead of canvassing
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votes, you're making those phone calls, those key phone calls that make the right people
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move forward to make the right things move.
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Because by the time you get there, you're politically savvy about your organization.
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So the key principle here, it is strategic.
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I've seen people use it over and over again, and now it's my strategy too, is a principle
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of conservation of energy.
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I will tell you that this podcast is my strategy.
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There are so many people in the academy, especially who are early career, who don't have the opportunity
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to really be able to invest in themselves or to be able to grow in the way they want
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to.
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I want to help all of them, but I can't because I also need to focus on my own career development.
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And so if I take 20 minutes and I record this podcast episode, it's one way that I can help
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the next generation without necessarily giving up my time to do it over and over and over
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again for different groups of people who keep coming to me.
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It's conserving energy.
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And so when somebody comes and says, Dr. Lemona, I want to meet with you next week.
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And then my other colleague wants to meet with you.
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There are always people who want to meet with me.
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There are more people who want to meet with me than I have slots on my schedule to meet
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with them.
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But I can say, oh, is your question about mentoring?
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Why don't you listen to this podcast episode I did about mentoring?
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That is a principle of conservation of energy in action.
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All right.
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I talked about seven things, seven strategies to grow your research skills.
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Number one, you ought to have a strategic plan.
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Number two, make sure to develop the habit of a weekly planning meeting.
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Number three, write consistently.
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Number four, get accountability.
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Number five, lean into your peer mentoring network.
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Number six, take risks.
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And number seven, conserve energy.
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I invite you today to think about your career and ask yourself in what areas do you need
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to apply strategy so that you can succeed?
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And then I want you to go ahead and take just one of these strategies and implement them
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this week.
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And then I want to hear all about it.
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Please reach out to me.
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You can find me on LinkedIn.
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I will respond to your direct message within a week or earlier, depending on how often
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I'm on LinkedIn.
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But I'd love to hear from you.
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Let me know how you are using these strategies to enhance your career.
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All right.
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It's been a pleasure to talk with you today.
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Thank you so much for tuning in.
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I look forward to talking with you again next time on the Clinician Researcher Podcast.
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Thank you for listening.
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Thanks for listening to this episode of the Clinician Researcher Podcast, where academic
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clinicians learn the skills to build their own research program, whether or not they
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have a mentor.
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If you found the information in this episode to be helpful, don't keep it all to yourself.
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Someone else needs to hear it.
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So take a minute right now and share it.
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As you share this episode, you become part of our mission to help launch a new generation
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of clinician researchers who make transformative discoveries that change the way we do healthcare.